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Motivated by this, we examine the complexity of computing the permanent and determinant via such homogeneous depth four circuits with bounded bottom fanin.<\/p>\n<p>We show here that any homogeneous depth four arithmetic circuit with bottom fanin bounded by \u221a(n)  computing the permanent (or the determinant) must be of size exp(\u221a(n)) .<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><!-- .asset-content --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Agrawal-Vinay (FOCS 2008) and Koiran (TCS 2012) have recently shown that an exp(\u221a(n) * log2 n)) lower bound for depth four homogeneous circuits computing the permanent with bottom layer of gates having fanin bounded by \u221a(n) translates to super-polynomial lower bound for a general arithmetic circuits computing the permanent. 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